Resource Sites - Guild Wars Forums

Essence Snow · Aug 05, 2010, 04:10 PM // 16:10

As many know there are several resource sites associated with GW. Ofc this one =D, wartower, and the wikis to name a few. Recently I have had an encounter, if u will, with an admin of PvX. I was met with the most tyranical expression that I have yet to encounter while being part of the GW community. Is this common to PvX? Has it become a hub of elitist bigotry?
I am very happy that Guru has not succome to this additude. TY admins for that.
What are some other resouce sites that may be beneficial to those looking for aid? Possibly ones with unbiased admins.

JR · Aug 05, 2010, 04:18 PM // 16:18

The GuildMag guys are pretty awesome, and their magazine is great. Definitely worth checking that out.

Glad you like it here.

Zodiac Meteor · Aug 05, 2010, 05:19 PM // 17:19

PvX is pretty bad, on physway deep, an Admin changed my vote to sabotage the build, twice. So much about fairness, admins play god with that website.
Admins on guru are pretty awesome on the other hand. And JR beat me to GuildMag...

Kook~NBK~ · Aug 05, 2010, 06:36 PM // 18:36

I'm less than impressed with PvX - Half of the PvE "builds" on there consist of 4 or 5 skills with 3 or 4 empty spots for optional skills - even ones they rate as "Excellent." For a new / inexperienced player, finishing out that skill bar could vey easily turn that Excellent build to utter crap, even using the suggested skills given.

I don't know much about the politics over there, but too many people in-game use PvX as the be-all, end-all of GW build ratings and can't recognize a good/excellent build unless they've seen it on the wiki. I can't help but to think that the admins there are aware of that. (oooohhhh the power!)

Reformed · Aug 05, 2010, 06:58 PM // 18:58

It's what happens when you give people the authority to interpret rules and guidelines at their own discretion and pretend as though those interpretations are somehow representative of the community at large. It's also not about being fair it's about being right and wrong even when those concepts are irrelevant.

This happens in the real world too, it's called the government.

Nubarus · Aug 05, 2010, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

I'm less than impressed with PvX - Half of the PvE "builds" on there consist of 4 or 5 skills with 3 or 4 empty spots for optional skills - even ones they rate as "Excellent." For a new / inexperienced player, finishing out that skill bar could vey easily turn that Excellent build to utter crap, even using the suggested skills given.

I don't know much about the politics over there, but too many people in-game use PvX as the be-all, end-all of GW build ratings and can't recognize a good/excellent build unless they've seen it on the wiki. I can't help but to think that the admins there are aware of that. (oooohhhh the power!)

Oh so true, this is the reason I never join pug teams anymore, all they do is moan for not using a PvX build, lol.
Even in AB I use a none PvX assassin build, once I got seperated from my team and was cut off by 5 kurzicks, 3 warriors, 1 dervish and 1 ranger.
I beat all 5 in the fight and they call me a noob for using a self design build instead of the PvX PvP assassin build...........lmao
I looked at the build after the battle and if I would have used that build they would have ripped me to shreds.

belshazaarswrath · Aug 05, 2010, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Well PvX is a wiki after all...

It doesn't matter if people post bad builds or say something stupid here. Because someone will inevitably come say "bad build is bad" or "hey what you said is stupid, stupid." On a wiki things are presented in a different way.

Also many people on PvX suffer from a very deadly strain of Unwarranted Self Importance

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Originally Posted by Nubarus

Oh so true, this is the reason I never join pug teams anymore, all they do is moan for not using a PvX build, lol.

That's bullshit. I've been pugging all kinds of things in WiK and no ones bitched at me or anyone else for not running shit on PvX.

Spiritz · Aug 05, 2010, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Pvx it seems is going downhill - even with anets nerfs in last year the amount of new builds is pitifull.Unless either gw has died totally or very few people are sharing via pvx - probably more builds have been on guru in last month than pvx ( dont quote me ).
Why its gone downhill i cant say - could be pvx staff problems as op hints at or something else - just a shame to see what almost became a great site for builds change into a forgotten archive.

Ka Tet · Aug 05, 2010, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Slightly off topic, but I see this as more of a reason to celebrate guru. Ty to the good folks of guru.

*Darcy* · Aug 05, 2010, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Of course, guildwarsguru is the best ever, but for a list (hopefully without broken links) of fansites here is the page on guildwars.com
http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/

Cuilan · Aug 05, 2010, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Don't like PvX? Don't like the current fansites? Make your own.

Xiaquin · Aug 05, 2010, 10:26 PM // 22:26

Agree with GuildMag, their July magazine issue was pretty awesome, just wish I had a better pc to deal with .pdf, but it was really well put together.

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

I'm less than impressed with PvX - Half of the PvE "builds" on there consist of 4 or 5 skills with 3 or 4 empty spots for optional skills - even ones they rate as "Excellent."

Cannot be said enough times. Barrage, LR and two interrupts is not a frickin' build. It's not a recipe if you write down 4 ingredients to something and list 20 optional ones to finish it off.

Bob Slydell · Aug 06, 2010, 04:52 AM // 04:52

From experience, I can say PvX has quite the ... elitism.

HigherMinion · Aug 06, 2010, 06:30 AM // 06:30

I think a big problem with it is most of the admin there don't care about the player-base of GW, because they don't even play. It's a massive trollfest with some builds on the side.

I think they'd be happier living in Encyclopedia Dramatica

Nubarus · Aug 06, 2010, 01:09 PM // 13:09

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Originally Posted by Cuilan

Don't like PvX? Don't like the current fansites? Make your own.

Or option number 2, don't go to PvX website and just ignore their elitist steaming pile of horseshit.

Quaker · Aug 06, 2010, 03:52 PM // 15:52

There's also a site called GWOnline, which I think still exists, but I haven't been there in a long time.
And, speaking a Guru admins - references to other fan sites have been deleted on here in the past, so you may never even see this.....

Kattar · Aug 06, 2010, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Quaker

And, speaking a Guru admins - references to other fan sites have been deleted on here in the past, so you may never even see this.....

orly?

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Snograt · Aug 06, 2010, 04:38 PM // 16:38

You must be getting us confused with other fansites, Quaker. Here on Guru we have never deleted references to other fan sites.

Mintha Syl · Aug 06, 2010, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by Quaker

There's also a site called GWOnline, which I think still exists, but I haven't been there in a long time.

Googled. Unless you're talking about incgamers the only other one I can find with that name is http://gwonline.com/ and I don't think it's got anything to do with the game

Snograt · Aug 06, 2010, 05:11 PM // 17:11

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/ aka GWOnline - see?

(Heh, couple of names there I recognise in their lore forum...)

Aug 05, 2010, 04:10 PM // 16:10	#1
Essence Snow Unbridled Enthusiasm! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: EST Guild: DPR	Resource Sites As many know there are several resource sites associated with GW. Ofc this one =D, wartower, and the wikis to name a few. Recently I have had an encounter, if u will, with an admin of PvX. I was met with the most tyranical expression that I have yet to encounter while being part of the GW community. Is this common to PvX? Has it become a hub of elitist bigotry? I am very happy that Guru has not succome to this additude. TY admins for that. What are some other resouce sites that may be beneficial to those looking for aid? Possibly ones with unbiased admins.

Aug 05, 2010, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#10
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Of course, guildwarsguru is the best ever, but for a list (hopefully without broken links) of fansites here is the page on guildwars.com http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/ __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Aug 06, 2010, 04:38 PM // 16:38	#18
Snograt rattus rattus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST Guild: [GURU]GW [wiki]GW2 Profession: R/	You must be getting us confused with other fansites, Quaker. Here on Guru we have never deleted references to other fan sites. __________________ Si non confectus, non reficiat

Aug 06, 2010, 05:11 PM // 17:11	#20
Snograt rattus rattus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST Guild: [GURU]GW [wiki]GW2 Profession: R/	http://guildwars.incgamers.com/ aka GWOnline - see? (Heh, couple of names there I recognise in their lore forum...) __________________ Si non confectus, non reficiat Last edited by Snograt; Aug 06, 2010 at 05:17 PM // 17:17..

Aug 05, 2010, 04:18 PM // 16:18	#2
JR Re:tired Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/	The GuildMag guys are pretty awesome, and their magazine is great. Definitely worth checking that out. Glad you like it here.

Aug 05, 2010, 05:19 PM // 17:19	#3
Zodiac Meteor Imma Firin Mah Rojway! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything. Profession: E/Mo	PvX is pretty bad, on physway deep, an Admin changed my vote to sabotage the build, twice. So much about fairness, admins play god with that website. Admins on guru are pretty awesome on the other hand. And JR beat me to GuildMag...

Aug 05, 2010, 06:36 PM // 18:36	#4
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	I'm less than impressed with PvX - Half of the PvE "builds" on there consist of 4 or 5 skills with 3 or 4 empty spots for optional skills - even ones they rate as "Excellent." For a new / inexperienced player, finishing out that skill bar could vey easily turn that Excellent build to utter crap, even using the suggested skills given. I don't know much about the politics over there, but too many people in-game use PvX as the be-all, end-all of GW build ratings and can't recognize a good/excellent build unless they've seen it on the wiki. I can't help but to think that the admins there are aware of that. (oooohhhh the power!)

Aug 05, 2010, 06:58 PM // 18:58	#5
Reformed Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2009	It's what happens when you give people the authority to interpret rules and guidelines at their own discretion and pretend as though those interpretations are somehow representative of the community at large. It's also not about being fair it's about being right and wrong even when those concepts are irrelevant. This happens in the real world too, it's called the government.

Aug 05, 2010, 09:06 PM // 21:06	#8
Spiritz Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: DMFC	Pvx it seems is going downhill - even with anets nerfs in last year the amount of new builds is pitifull.Unless either gw has died totally or very few people are sharing via pvx - probably more builds have been on guru in last month than pvx ( dont quote me ). Why its gone downhill i cant say - could be pvx staff problems as op hints at or something else - just a shame to see what almost became a great site for builds change into a forgotten archive.

Aug 05, 2010, 09:38 PM // 21:38	#9
Ka Tet Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Pita Bread And Scud Missiles Ai[iiii]	Slightly off topic, but I see this as more of a reason to celebrate guru. Ty to the good folks of guru.

Aug 05, 2010, 10:16 PM // 22:16	#11
Cuilan Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2008 Profession: Me/	Don't like PvX? Don't like the current fansites? Make your own.

Aug 06, 2010, 04:52 AM // 04:52	#13
Bob Slydell Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2007	From experience, I can say PvX has quite the ... elitism.

Aug 06, 2010, 06:30 AM // 06:30	#14
HigherMinion Forge Runner Join Date: May 2008 Location: East Anglia, UK Guild: Order of [Thay] Profession: N/	I think a big problem with it is most of the admin there don't care about the player-base of GW, because they don't even play. It's a massive trollfest with some builds on the side. I think they'd be happier living in Encyclopedia Dramatica

Aug 06, 2010, 03:52 PM // 15:52	#16
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	There's also a site called GWOnline, which I think still exists, but I haven't been there in a long time. And, speaking a Guru admins - references to other fan sites have been deleted on here in the past, so you may never even see this.....